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--Sexist jokes-- I don't understand the nuns joke ("Where's the soap?" "Yes, it is.") Even when I substitute the homonym, "Wears," in the question, I still don't get the answer. Can someone explain this to me?

"Where's the soap?" "Yes it does.
The implication is that the nuns are masturbating.
Paul Tracy
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NPOV - Types of Jokes section

The placement of "sexist jokes" as first in the "types of jokes" section, seems inappropriate and unduely advancing a point of view by drawing attention to that issue.

A Google search came back with 636,000 hits for "lawyer jokes,"[1] (http://www.google.com/search?q=%22lawyer+jokes%22&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official) 299,000 hits for "political jokes,"[2] (http://www.google.com/search?q=%22political+jokes%22&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official) and 85,000 hits for "yo mama jokes,"[3] (http://www.google.com/search?q=%22yo+mama+jokes%22&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official) but only just over 18,000 hits for "sexist jokes."[4] (http://www.google.com/search?q=%22sexist+jokes%22&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official) So clearly "sexist jokes" aren't the first thing that most people think about when they think about types of jokes.

--Blackcats 20:45, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Playin' the Dozens

I didn't realize "playing the dozens" was always about jokes concerning a family member. Is there a source for this? Tuf-Kat 04:19, Nov 4, 2003 (UTC)

About crackin' on family -- that's just the way it's always been, with jokes about somebody's mama being especially favored. Bet if you surfed the Net for the subject, you'd find lots of references to the fact that the dozens was about family insults. -- deeceevoice, June 24, 2004

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Being new, I've only just realized I should have preserved the following misinformation:

  • "The object of the game is to tell the best joke, usually after each person has been given twelve tries, or until the competitor fails to reply with a comeback."

This is just patently wrong. See my edit for the true origin of the phrase -- deeceevoice, June 26, 2004

--- Note to self: add reference to signifyin' and oral tradition/ritualized sparring practices in African culture.deeceevoice

Done. With new article on wolf ticket. deeceevoice 15:41, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)

I miss the "usually with an unexpected ending, called punchline" stuff in your definition of a joke. Even the short sentence "What's the matter - apart from energy divided by the square of lightspeed?" is only a joke because of the unexpected ending. Since I'm a new user, I don't want to edit it without the consent of the previous editors. Alex Kloss 16:30, Feb 5, 2004 (UTC)

Go ahead and edit, you don't need permission. And in some cases the previous editors might not even be around any more. If people don't like your edit they'll discuss it with you and a compromise will be reached. See: Wikipedia:Be bold --bodnotbod 17:54, Jun 24, 2004 (UTC)

Move Playin' the Dozens?

The dozens is not just about telling jokes -- as the passage explains. While I appreciate the attempt at shoehorning the dozens into this category, it still doesn't fit, and "and the like" is clumsy, I think -- sort of like, "and, uh ... whatever."

I'm thinking the dozens should be a completely separate piece, with only a passing reference in "jokes" -- unless someone comes up with something called "ethnic humor" or something. I'm thinking there would be other additions in this category, but they would be general characterizations (like Jewish humor), for example, rather than specific forms. So, maybe not. (But, then, what do I know?) A general category or separate article on "ethnic humor" aside, I don't think this is a terribly effective way of dealing with the problem of placing the dozens in a "joke" category. deeceevoice 06:19, 26 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Reverted. You didn't happen to notice that this section is not only about dozens. These are jokes, and rightfully here. Dozens has its article as well, good for it. And it is not "ethnic humor" either. Mikkalai 07:31, 26 Nov 2004 (UTC)

The difference between ethnic jokes and ethnic humor

Got into a back-and-forth with another person about changing a subhead from "Ethnic Jokes" to "Ethnic Humor." Playing the dozens is included under "ethnic jokes," but it clearly isn't in that genre. It belongs in a category of "ethnic humor," as opposed to "ethnic jokes." How do you want to handle that? The other contributor apparently feels strongly that the subhead should remain the same. If that's the case, the playing the dozens should be removed from that section and placed elsewhere. deeceevoice 07:27, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)

"Playing dosens" not under; in is "after". Please look into the table of contents. And I am not another person. Me got myself a name, hello. And I agree with you; while playing dozens is exchange of jokes, technically it is not "joke", and should be put into a separate article. And this article must say something along the lines that "special kind of jokes is used in playins the dozens etc.etc." Mikkalai

Hi, Mikkalai. *waving* Yes, I know you have a name! I just couldn't remember it at the time; I was rushed. And rather than misspell it, I simply referred to you indirectly. I suppose there could be a separate article on ethnic humor if people think it warrants that. But someone already had put "playing the dozens" there, so I was simply trying to figure out a way properly to distinguish between ethnic jokes and ethnic humor -- because it doesn't belong in the former category. Whatever other people want to do is fine with me, but the correction definitely should be made. deeceevoice 20:08, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Lists of Jokes

Just a "heads up" for people watching this page and not the lists of jokes pages that it spawned/links to. These pages have been listed (or mooted to be so) on VfD:

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